{"id":2629,"date":"2022-04-08T13:45:24","date_gmt":"2022-04-08T11:45:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/techleap-design.nl\/techleap\/?p=2629"},"modified":"2023-12-20T18:54:15","modified_gmt":"2023-12-20T17:54:15","slug":"shaping-the-future-of-global-employment-and-reinventing-the-culture-of-scaling-with-job-van-der-voort-ceo-of-remote","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/blog\/shaping-the-future-of-global-employment-and-reinventing-the-culture-of-scaling-with-job-van-der-voort-ceo-of-remote\/","title":{"rendered":"Shaping the future of global employment and reinventing the culture of scaling with Job van der Voort, CEO of Remote"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-18hdufo-42582efc04ccaefb3e7a9c2d25e0749d\">\n.avia-section.av-18hdufo-42582efc04ccaefb3e7a9c2d25e0749d{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='header-blog'  class='avia-section av-18hdufo-42582efc04ccaefb3e7a9c2d25e0749d alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_section  avia-builder-el-first  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><main  role=\"main\" itemprop=\"mainContentOfPage\"  class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-2629'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div class='flex_column_table av-15qnqwk-dc06b6b044d63f8eb332b8f505120424 sc-av_one_half av-equal-height-column-flextable'><div  class='flex_column av-15qnqwk-dc06b6b044d63f8eb332b8f505120424 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-1  el_before_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-middle  '     ><p><div  class='av-post-metadata-container av-locq4yq5-0d0029811fc0e8a75822a8a301b8b3db av-metadata-container-align-left  avia-builder-el-2  el_before_av_heading  avia-builder-el-first  av-metadata-container-1'><div class='av-post-metadata-container-inner'><span class=\"av-post-metadata-content av-post-metadata-meta-content\"><span class=\"av-post-metadata-content av-post-metadata-published\"><span class=\"av-post-metadata-published-date\" >April 8, 2022<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-117j6v8-1bfaa9f6452aa2850b675813c549cda5\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-117j6v8-1bfaa9f6452aa2850b675813c549cda5{\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-117j6v8-1bfaa9f6452aa2850b675813c549cda5 .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-117j6v8-1bfaa9f6452aa2850b675813c549cda5 .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-117j6v8-1bfaa9f6452aa2850b675813c549cda5 av-special-heading-h1 blockquote modern-quote  avia-builder-el-3  el_after_av_post_metadata  avia-builder-el-last '><h1 class='av-special-heading-tag'  itemprop=\"headline\"  >Shaping the future of global employment and reinventing the culture of scaling with Job van der Voort, CEO of Remote<\/h1><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/p><\/div><div class='av-flex-placeholder'><\/div><div  class='flex_column av-y8liwk-e0bbfca7a2272ea72a954823c9f13cd1 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-4  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-middle  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-vvsyxg-0ab4e7b435d73aecbcf9a391ca4db215\">\n.avia-image-container.av-vvsyxg-0ab4e7b435d73aecbcf9a391ca4db215 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-vvsyxg-0ab4e7b435d73aecbcf9a391ca4db215 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-vvsyxg-0ab4e7b435d73aecbcf9a391ca4db215 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-5  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2630 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2630 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/Job-van-der-Voort-CEO-of-Remote-for-the-scale-lab-podcast-by-techleap.webp\" alt='' title='Job van der Voort - 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Autoclose: 1 -->\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-oscq44-36f869268c85cecccd4bfbd423eb3cfa\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-oscq44-36f869268c85cecccd4bfbd423eb3cfa{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-oscq44-36f869268c85cecccd4bfbd423eb3cfa hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-6  el_after_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-last '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/main><!-- close content main element --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-u4ty9w-fa2cf5077c88f5a8f1e92e8be0ee90ad\">\n.avia-section.av-u4ty9w-fa2cf5077c88f5a8f1e92e8be0ee90ad{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='content-blog'  class='avia-section av-u4ty9w-fa2cf5077c88f5a8f1e92e8be0ee90ad alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-7  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-2629'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-tno0wk-19b821c824dfc5d44f6fb23273a6ef1e '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h4 class=\"opening-text\">In episode 18 of The Scale Lab, Constantijn &amp; Joe are meeting Job van der Voort &#8211; CEO of Remote. Job is sharing his unique professional path &#8211; from a neuroscientist to a SaaS entrepreneur. To give you a feel of what this conversation was like, we\u2019re sharing with you some key excerpts from this podcast episode:<\/h4>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:10:05&#093; Joe: What were the key things you\u2019ve learned about while establishing your product-market fit?\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-3mh76u-e0456cfb9398e37e1022e6e333022332\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-3mh76u-e0456cfb9398e37e1022e6e333022332{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-3mh76u-e0456cfb9398e37e1022e6e333022332 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-9  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_sidebar '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='avia-builder-widget-area clearfix  avia-builder-el-10  el_after_av_hr  avia-builder-el-last '><div id=\"avia_auto_toc-2\" class=\"widget clearfix avia-widget-container avia_auto_toc avia_no_block_preview\"><div class=\"avia-preview-headline\">techleap Table of Contents<\/div><div class=\"avia-preview-info\">Title: <\/div><div class=\"avia-preview-in-front\">Table can only be rendered in frontend.<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lnin7dil-690e09858cada6a8329eb467c4706a90\">\n.avia-section.av-lnin7dil-690e09858cada6a8329eb467c4706a90{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='content-blog2'  class='avia-section av-lnin7dil-690e09858cada6a8329eb467c4706a90 alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-11  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-2629'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-7e501g-35909eb2a2b69d0f09f12f6effe013ed '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:03:04&#093; Joe: When did you know you had a product-market fit with Sendcloud?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:10:05&#093; Joe: What were the key things you\u2019ve learned about while establishing your product-market fit?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:00:18&#093; Constantijn: Why do you think that in Europe we tend to celebrate entrepreneurs less compared to the U.S.? You are doing incredible stuff in the Netherlands, but it seems that it\u2019s being modestly talked about.\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:04:16&#093; Joe: Did you always have a product-market fit? Or were there key things you had to change to make it work for your product? \">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>[00:04:16] Joe: Did you always have a product-market fit? Or were there key things you had to change to make it work for your product?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>Job:\u00a0<\/b>Even before we\u2019ve started the company, we knew that hiring worldwide was a problem that needed to be solved, since there were multiple businesses focusing on that already. However, those businesses were not able to deliver a hiring solution that was purely a service. Most of them were essentially large consultancies that hired tens or hundreds of people to do recruitment for entreprises. Their services were expensive and lacking automation. Hence, we saw that there is a gap in the market that we could fill.<\/p>\n<p>And so when we started the company, we knew that we have to set up the operational infrastructure ourselves, so that we&#8217;re not dependent on any other parties. And that took us a really long time, almost a year and a half, to open up to customers and actually provide a tangible product. That said, by the time we opened up, we had a really good understanding of what would make people switch from using competitors\u2019 products to ours. Plus, because we were very deliberate with shaping our solution to a high standard, once we publicly released\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/remote.com\/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Remote<\/a>, we immediately got few customers in store. However, to be clear,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/remote.com\/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Remote<\/a> wasn\u2019t perfect when we launched. In fact, even today, we don&#8217;t have everything fully automated or fully productised. The amount of work that we still have to accomplish will keep us busy for quite a while.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-image section\" data-section=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-3t4eau-910c2d984477e6f517f48168ab10174c\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-3t4eau-910c2d984477e6f517f48168ab10174c{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-3t4eau-910c2d984477e6f517f48168ab10174c hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-13  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-locrp8pk-c994999d73500ca50d30e92a8f46c02e '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:03:04&#093; Joe: When did you know you had a product-market fit with Sendcloud?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:10:05&#093; Joe: What were the key things you\u2019ve learned about while establishing your product-market fit?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:00:18&#093; Constantijn: Why do you think that in Europe we tend to celebrate entrepreneurs less compared to the U.S.? 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We already have thousands of customers, so reaching a million is something attainable within a decade or so.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-image section\" data-section=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-h8zf9-e11147e38a85704a395ede9cf8ca12a2\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-h8zf9-e11147e38a85704a395ede9cf8ca12a2{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-h8zf9-e11147e38a85704a395ede9cf8ca12a2 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-15  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-locwcnde-3d7dd7b15dca66a09a096b71aff41d2f '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:03:04&#093; Joe: When did you know you had a product-market fit with Sendcloud?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:10:05&#093; Joe: What were the key things you\u2019ve learned about while establishing your product-market fit?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:00:18&#093; Constantijn: Why do you think that in Europe we tend to celebrate entrepreneurs less compared to the U.S.? You are doing incredible stuff in the Netherlands, but it seems that it\u2019s being modestly talked about.\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:08:10&#093; Constantijn: How big can Remote become in your opinion?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:14:18&#093; Constantijn: What is your market expansion strategy - do you go from country to country? And what makes you prioritise one country over another?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>[00:14:18] Constantijn: What is your market expansion strategy &#8211; do you go from country to country? And what makes you prioritise one country over another?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>Job:\u00a0<\/b>We have to expand country by country because we need to open up local entities in every country to understand how things work in each market and what we need to do so stay compliant. We have made some basic assumptions on processes and business rules that are common in most countries and built our product around those assumptions. Once we expand to a new country, we then figure out the exact details and see if we have to make adjustments to those assumptions.<\/p>\n<p>In the beginning, we were going for the least \u2018painful\u2019 market choice for us. So those were the countries that were physically close to the Netherlands, since the proximity allowed us to travel often to the newly opened offices to fix and sign things whenever needed. 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There are values that we have as a company and try to preserve while we scale. One of them is to accept our failures, have very clear guidelines on how we communicate with each other, minimise the number of meetings teams have to the strictly necessary only. <b>We\u2019ve created an environment where everybody gets a lot of ownership.\u00a0<\/b>This means that we can be more efficient with our time, which would otherwise have been spent in meetings to discuss managerial things. Instead, we create space for people to get to know each other during work hours, hang out, and play games. As an employer, you want to provide enough opportunities for employees to informally get to know each other, regardless of the company\u2019s increasing size.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-image section\" data-section=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-260wut-f75482631067766b8693512242256f8b\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-260wut-f75482631067766b8693512242256f8b{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-260wut-f75482631067766b8693512242256f8b hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-19  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-locwdv85-de6694b80efc41274d6e9c80e3d15050 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:03:04&#093; Joe: When did you know you had a product-market fit with Sendcloud?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:10:05&#093; Joe: What were the key things you\u2019ve learned about while establishing your product-market fit?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:00:18&#093; Constantijn: Why do you think that in Europe we tend to celebrate entrepreneurs less compared to the U.S.? You are doing incredible stuff in the Netherlands, but it seems that it\u2019s being modestly talked about.\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:08:10&#093; Constantijn: How big can Remote become in your opinion?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:14:18&#093; Constantijn: What is your market expansion strategy - do you go from country to country? And what makes you prioritise one country over another?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:20:33&#093; Constantijn: How do you preserve your company culture with such rapid growth and everyone working remotely? \">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"&#091;00:30:11&#093; Joe: In terms of culture, that's maybe an extension. You guys launched Remote for refugees last year and if there was ever a time in the world for this to be of high value it is now. 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