{"id":813,"date":"2023-08-17T11:11:47","date_gmt":"2023-08-17T09:11:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/techleap-design.nl\/techleap\/?p=813"},"modified":"2023-12-21T10:38:30","modified_gmt":"2023-12-21T09:38:30","slug":"how-chris-hall-shaped-bynder-s-success-on-the-global-arena-as-a-saas-company","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/blog\/how-chris-hall-shaped-bynder-s-success-on-the-global-arena-as-a-saas-company\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Hall, founder of Bynder: \u201cEven the best hires of the time might not last more than a year or two\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lkcgd8fl-9ed45aed6c88a87bfe3ef6d3c2f9e554\">\n.avia-section.av-lkcgd8fl-9ed45aed6c88a87bfe3ef6d3c2f9e554{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='header-blog'  class='avia-section av-lkcgd8fl-9ed45aed6c88a87bfe3ef6d3c2f9e554 alternate_color avia-section-default 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class='av-post-metadata-container-inner'><span class=\"av-post-metadata-content av-post-metadata-meta-content\"><span class=\"av-post-metadata-content av-post-metadata-modified\"><span class=\"av-post-metadata-modified-date\" >December 21, 2023<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lkcefi62-dfd6669af7ae3b1a159a4b05e2e27860\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-lkcefi62-dfd6669af7ae3b1a159a4b05e2e27860{\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-lkcefi62-dfd6669af7ae3b1a159a4b05e2e27860 .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-lkcefi62-dfd6669af7ae3b1a159a4b05e2e27860 .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-lkcefi62-dfd6669af7ae3b1a159a4b05e2e27860 av-special-heading-h1 blockquote modern-quote  avia-builder-el-3  el_after_av_post_metadata  avia-builder-el-last '><h1 class='av-special-heading-tag'  itemprop=\"headline\"  >Chris Hall, founder of Bynder: <span class='special_amp'>\u201c<\/span>Even the best hires of the time might not last more than a year or two<span class='special_amp'>\u201d<\/span><\/h1><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/p><\/div><div class='av-flex-placeholder'><\/div><div  class='flex_column av-3l2z-030558c7662a69a74025d5764ee63cc3 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-4  el_after_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-last  flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-middle  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lkcfxnpc-d287ff70e2c5d2f401fd1f395693c20e\">\n.avia-image-container.av-lkcfxnpc-d287ff70e2c5d2f401fd1f395693c20e img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-lkcfxnpc-d287ff70e2c5d2f401fd1f395693c20e .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container 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Autoclose: 1 -->\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/main><!-- close content main element --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-16dbm6-4aa979c1e359788ae6906cd3e09c060f\">\n.avia-section.av-16dbm6-4aa979c1e359788ae6906cd3e09c060f{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='blog-row1-3-1'  class='avia-section av-16dbm6-4aa979c1e359788ae6906cd3e09c060f alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-6  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-813'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div  class='flex_column av-10vyoe-cad53da60de876b0e60244cdb43f694c av_one_fifth  avia-builder-el-7  el_before_av_three_fifth  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_div  '     ><\/div><div  class='flex_column av-wp7za-87fe590ff57011029116ced466c894cf av_three_fifth  avia-builder-el-8  el_after_av_one_fifth  el_before_av_one_fifth  flex_column_div  '     ><p><section  class='av_textblock_section av-r9292-4d6bd49f08aac9ef140b91595a57af84 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>In this episode, Chris Hall &#8211; founder of Bynder &#8211; shares his expert view on what it takes to build a successful SaaS company. Chris explains why perfect product-market fit is not always a necessity for your product to take off and pinpoints the elements that determined Bynder&#8217;s long-term success on an international level. Read the highlights of our talk with Chris in this blog:<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-myvbq-f7fdfd67ba7b7695d058113cb46f8d3d\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-myvbq-f7fdfd67ba7b7695d058113cb46f8d3d{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-myvbq-f7fdfd67ba7b7695d058113cb46f8d3d hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-10  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_sidebar '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n<div  class='avia-builder-widget-area clearfix  avia-builder-el-11  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr '><div id=\"avia_auto_toc-2\" class=\"widget clearfix avia-widget-container avia_auto_toc avia_no_block_preview\"><div class=\"avia-preview-headline\">techleap Table of Contents<\/div><div class=\"avia-preview-info\">Title: <\/div><div class=\"avia-preview-in-front\">Table can only be rendered in frontend.<\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-wk65p-45b0b40cb32dc0b52ab9b04b7ed9953d\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-wk65p-45b0b40cb32dc0b52ab9b04b7ed9953d{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-wk65p-45b0b40cb32dc0b52ab9b04b7ed9953d hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-12  el_after_av_sidebar  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-llevpbqw-984ebd1b4aa77b3879fd99db00c84b92 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h3>Listen to the episode<\/h3>\n<div>The podcast episode is available on major listening platforms:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/episode-7-how-chris-hall-shaped-bynders-success-on\/id1558100523?i=1000519221606\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/76MeKdAlI34TzI6sFSXUZB?si=7e98f08215b943d2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8zZTQ5NmNlOC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pca.st\/9qlqw3yq\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pocket Casts<\/a>.<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div><div  class='flex_column av-91tim-3e484571e80bc5db9b4916a31c6e6050 av_one_fifth  avia-builder-el-14  el_after_av_three_fifth  avia-builder-el-last  flex_column_div  '     ><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-smu71-147327336bb653007b38e04cccea4b8f\">\n.avia-section.av-smu71-147327336bb653007b38e04cccea4b8f{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='content-blog'  class='avia-section av-smu71-147327336bb653007b38e04cccea4b8f alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-15  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-813'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-llevudsa-72e58dd4b3b549d0dc67e1ce52a1bbad '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>1:00<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I like this question because this is the essence of any kind of business &#8211; \u2018what\u2019s the problem you\u2019re trying to solve?\u2019. With\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bynder.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bynder<\/a>\u00a0we were trying to solve the mess of dealing with ever-increasing file sizes and getting them to the right people, at the right time.<\/p>\n<p>I always had a fanatical interest in SaaS as a business model, because the sky&#8217;s the limit, once you have that machine ticking.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-cr89h-953c907d82d2f0f53d7d8113bf71c61a\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-cr89h-953c907d82d2f0f53d7d8113bf71c61a{\nheight:20px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-cr89h-953c907d82d2f0f53d7d8113bf71c61a hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-17  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-lqf01k1f-2feb0d6f0e89da6c93dd59bf654ddd78 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>9:28<\/b><\/p>\n<p>We already knew quite early, maybe with the first couple of customers even, that\u00a0<b>we should build our solutions in a multitude of languages, across various markets.<\/b>\u00a0We started with Dutch and English and then expanded to other languages like French and Spanish. I think that\u2019s an advantage of starting a company in the Netherlands &#8211; you have to think global, because the Dutch market is not large enough to be able to create a big company.<\/p>\n<p>Back when we were building\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bynder.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bynder<\/a>, it was difficult to get into the US market, as the US was hesitant to buy software that was not US-made. I think Spotify was one the first breakthroughs from Europe that made it to the US. We had to get through that barrier as well, that\u2019s why it was very valuable for us to have those big names in our portfolio.<\/p>\n<p>One of our first US-based clients was Patagonia &#8211; a great, FMCG brand, essentially a pioneer in its industry. They understood that with SaaS, it doesn&#8217;t really matter where the company or the data is, you just need the best in class solution. We\u2019ve been lucky with our US clients to be chosen based on our software solution and performance rather than our location. At the same time, it was much harder to sell into Germany and France.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948{\nheight:20px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-19  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_image '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-llexo7o4-305742169cebf36928a6bd81c5deff1c\">\n.avia-image-container.av-llexo7o4-305742169cebf36928a6bd81c5deff1c img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-llexo7o4-305742169cebf36928a6bd81c5deff1c .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-llexo7o4-305742169cebf36928a6bd81c5deff1c av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-20  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-4560 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-4560 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2.webp\" alt='' title='Bynder 2'  height=\"857\" width=\"1600\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2.webp 1600w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2-300x161.webp 300w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2-1030x552.webp 1030w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2-768x411.webp 768w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2-1020x546.webp 1020w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-2-1500x803.webp 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-llexpp93-d21ed1503d267de88c84d79f340baa41 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>While we are still on the internationalisation topic, was there a specific strategy that you adopted as to which country to have a physical presence in?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>13:10<\/b><\/p>\n<p>In 2014\/2015 we opened an office in London, Barcelona, Boston, and Dubai the year after that. We knew it\u2019s not that much work to set up a little hub office in a city, it\u2019s pretty easy and fun. It creates that feeling of expansion.\u00a0<b>I\u2019ve always been very ambitious with office space &#8211; it\u2019s like growing plants. You put them in a big pot &#8211; they\u2019ll grow big, you put them in a small pot, they\u2019ll grow small.<\/b>\u00a0In a way, I\u2019ve overinvested in office space, because when you see empty chairs around you, it incentivises you to grow your team even faster!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948{\nheight:20px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-av_hr-a5869ced9b83f692d52e44a63bc57948 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-22  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_image '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-llexr3gz-707d6584e714c4e1739a48377cbd1ef3\">\n.avia-image-container.av-llexr3gz-707d6584e714c4e1739a48377cbd1ef3 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-llexr3gz-707d6584e714c4e1739a48377cbd1ef3 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-llexr3gz-707d6584e714c4e1739a48377cbd1ef3 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-23  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-4561 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-4561 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3.webp\" alt='' title='Bynder 3'  height=\"857\" width=\"1600\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3.webp 1600w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3-300x161.webp 300w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3-1030x552.webp 1030w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3-768x411.webp 768w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3-1020x546.webp 1020w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-3-1500x803.webp 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-llexrxt8-83ef7d4d47b50befe021bb4e43e78d6b '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>Since you were quite profitable from the early days, why did you decide to bring in an external, foreign investor?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>27:50<\/b><\/p>\n<p>There are a couple of reasons why you would need an investor. Number one is &#8211; if you can bring on money to grow faster that will create infinitely more value for the shareholders, if that&#8217;s what you are aiming for. You only want to bring in money if you know that you can grow even faster with that money, otherwise, what\u2019s the point? Number two, additional capital allows you to be more competitive in the market. So if you don\u2019t take that VC money, you\u2019re missing out on an opportunity, because somebody else will do it.<\/p>\n<p>We had big ambitions. For me it was never about getting rich, it was all about &#8211; where can we take this company? If you can\u2019t invest in hiring more people, because you don\u2019t have the cash flow, you\u2019re just stopping your own growth. In SaaS, the faster you grow, the more money you are going to need, because of very high acquisition costs.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-18dlqt-8d281338728216ebaff31d5a386f3432\">\n.avia-section.av-18dlqt-8d281338728216ebaff31d5a386f3432{\nbackground-color:#e3e3e3;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='quote-section'  class='avia-section av-18dlqt-8d281338728216ebaff31d5a386f3432 alternate_color avia-section-large avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-25  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-813'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div class='flex_column_table av-10r8fh-5a38f90a715baed662549220c8f8b906 sc-av_one_half av-equal-height-column-flextable'><div  class='flex_column av-10r8fh-5a38f90a715baed662549220c8f8b906 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-26  el_before_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-first  first no_margin flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-top  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lqf0cxyk-c08b26c968cc57297026abc8e35d9c8c\">\n.avia-image-container.av-lqf0cxyk-c08b26c968cc57297026abc8e35d9c8c img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-lqf0cxyk-c08b26c968cc57297026abc8e35d9c8c .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-lqf0cxyk-c08b26c968cc57297026abc8e35d9c8c av-styling-no-styling avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-27  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-4563 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-4563 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-Quote-500x500.webp\" alt='' title='Bynder Quote'  height=\"500\" width=\"500\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-Quote-500x500.webp 500w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-Quote-80x80.webp 80w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-vtt31-95fc38cbe9642a21f6b5918a84fa7d98\">\n.flex_column.av-vtt31-95fc38cbe9642a21f6b5918a84fa7d98{\npadding:30px 40px 40px 90px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-vtt31-95fc38cbe9642a21f6b5918a84fa7d98 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-28  el_after_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-last  no_margin flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-top  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lqf0dj7u-66bdf01ed3ae3db8c320b9fc2143464e\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-lqf0dj7u-66bdf01ed3ae3db8c320b9fc2143464e{\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-lqf0dj7u-66bdf01ed3ae3db8c320b9fc2143464e .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-lqf0dj7u-66bdf01ed3ae3db8c320b9fc2143464e .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-lqf0dj7u-66bdf01ed3ae3db8c320b9fc2143464e av-special-heading-h2 blockquote modern-quote  avia-builder-el-29  el_before_av_textblock  avia-builder-el-first  quotation'><h2 class='av-special-heading-tag'  itemprop=\"headline\"  >If you can show growth for every dollar we put in, there will be an infinite amount of money available.<\/h2><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-lqf0dz46-eb8604dac0ac0b43a3af7a6d202fdb28 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock quote-bottom'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><span style=\"font-family: maison-mono;color: #ff8000\">Chris Hall, Founder of Bynder<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div><\/div><!--close column table wrapper. Autoclose: 1 -->\n<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-2uqxh-6d5ba39bab9ddd154bf9a38725fef39e\">\n.avia-section.av-2uqxh-6d5ba39bab9ddd154bf9a38725fef39e{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='content-blog'  class='avia-section av-2uqxh-6d5ba39bab9ddd154bf9a38725fef39e alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-31  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-813'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-jlbtx-14b3f8dd68285951d17832894b8e6cc9 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"How did you go about finding your investor?\u00a0\u00a0 \">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>How did you go about finding your investor?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>31:35\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t really know much about that whole investment scene, it was a black box. I didn\u2019t even know what a VC was, so I had to look it up. And that was in 2009\/2010 when we started getting some investor interest. I started reading more and more about VC funding and we got into more discussions with potential investors. I think it\u2019s very important to have as many conversations as possible so that you can figure out what the exact needs of your company are when it comes to funding. It took a year or two to actually do a funding round, so it wasn\u2019t a quick process, as we had to make sure we were ready to take that commitment. It is also very easy to underestimate the amount of cash you\u2019d need. I remember I didn\u2019t know what to do with $5m, and I\u2019ve been told by investors that next year I\u2019ll need much more than $5m. And that\u2019s exactly what happened. So I\u2019d say you can easily double or even triple the amount of money you think you\u2019re going to need. This way you can get you through the first couple of years comfortably because you don\u2019t want to go through that funding process over and over again. It slows down the business and is overall a very grueling process.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-grbrh-7fb49912c3b85204dcef299ea5367eef\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-grbrh-7fb49912c3b85204dcef299ea5367eef{\nheight:20px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-grbrh-7fb49912c3b85204dcef299ea5367eef hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-33  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-101p1-c623e9babf39eca8f50a1520b78abc8e '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"What problem were you trying to solve with Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"How did you go about finding your investor?\u00a0\u00a0 \">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Were there one or two instrumental hires for Bynder?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<h3>Were there one or two instrumental hires for Bynder?<\/h3>\n<div>\n<p><b>58:38<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s really important to understand that even the best hires of the time might not last more than a year or two. I made that mistake a couple of times. If people don\u2019t grow with the company, then they should find something else for themselves (within or outside of the company). You might find the perfect CFO or CTO, but it becomes a completely different role as you scale. So it can happen that people that you hired a year or two ago will not be able to keep up with the changing role.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Have you ever considered taking your product to a market that was more ready for you?\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"article-wide modular-push section\" data-section=\"Marleen Vogelaar - founder and CEO @Ziel &amp; co-founder @Shapeways\">\n<div class=\"c\">\n<div class=\"text\">\n<div class=\"big\"><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"modular-text section\" data-section=\"Key highlights\">\n<div class=\"c\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-mm59p-f8b1018089d2040a3149f5a3523abc3a\">\n.avia-section.av-mm59p-f8b1018089d2040a3149f5a3523abc3a{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\nbackground-image:unset;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='content-blog-2c'  class='avia-section av-mm59p-f8b1018089d2040a3149f5a3523abc3a alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-35  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-813'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div class='flex_column_table av-d4731-f79c88c2238149b9e6aaacc501bd939e sc-av_one_half av-equal-height-column-flextable'><div  class='flex_column av-d4731-f79c88c2238149b9e6aaacc501bd939e av_one_half  avia-builder-el-36  el_before_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-middle  '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lqf00khw-e8ce908da5d7eb61fd421383c8f5c2b4\">\n.avia-image-container.av-lqf00khw-e8ce908da5d7eb61fd421383c8f5c2b4 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-lqf00khw-e8ce908da5d7eb61fd421383c8f5c2b4 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-lqf00khw-e8ce908da5d7eb61fd421383c8f5c2b4 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-37  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-4562 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-4562 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4.webp\" alt='' title='Bynder 4'  height=\"901\" width=\"1600\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4.webp 1600w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4-300x169.webp 300w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4-1030x580.webp 1030w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4-768x432.webp 768w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4-1020x574.webp 1020w, https:\/\/techleap.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/08\/Bynder-4-1500x845.webp 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class='av-flex-placeholder'><\/div><div  class='flex_column av-78h65-eeec961a9437bc40371d82cf2c51cfe3 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-38  el_after_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-last  flex_column_table_cell av-equal-height-column av-align-middle  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-llevytet-b4ef67769190fe4970ed03993d9c0c9d '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h3>Watch the full episode &amp; 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