December 20, 2023
Welcome to The Scale Lab podcast: Intro episode

The podcast episode is available on all major listening platforms: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Pocket Casts.
Seasoned entrepreneurs such as Robert Vis, Ali Niknam, Joelle Frijters, and Taco Carlier are sharing the ups and downs of their founder journeys. What are their key learnings that every startup founder should know? Listen now to find out!
Constantijn van Oranje leads Techleap.nl, accelerating the Dutch tech ecosystem. As Special Envoy, he strives to transform the Netherlands into a unicorn hub. His team aids Dutch startups in global growth by enhancing their access to capital, market, talent, and tech.
He co-founded StartupFest Europe, the largest Dutch startup event. Formerly Chief of Staff for VP Neelie Kroes at the European Commission, he directed the Brussels office of RAND Corp.
Currently Director at Macro Advisory Partners and Edge Fellow at Deloitte Centre for the Edge.
Joe is inspired by companies and people. Founder of Netherlands-based Risenu, he drives startups to succeed while giving back. With vast experience across startups and billion-dollar businesses, his unique view combines strategy and tactical results.
A veteran of 5 startups, Joe covers a range from home repair to tech platforms. He advises tech companies and leads Techleap.nl’s scaleup program. Formerly with Microsoft, he’s well-versed in marketing, operations, and student programs.
Living across Europe and Asia, Joe serves on boards and volunteers with his family for causes they believe in.
5:08 – Constantijn – “There’s a very high urge to innovate. We (i.e. Dutch) are good architects, good designers in general. Building a business to make a lot of money doesn’t seem to drive Dutch people in the same way compared to other countries. It’s more about making an impact.”
8:50 – Joe – “We need people whose auto-reaction is not ‘take it slow, be pragmatic, don’t take any risk.”
9:15 – Joe – ” I don’t see a path to this type of growth that we discuss without the risk piece being there. Take a chance, go bigger, try harder. Not just work more, but try to envision bigger.”
12:32 – Constantijn – “We have a small market. So somewhere in the mindset you have to immediately introduce that you’re building a business that should go beyond the boundaries of the Netherlands.”
15:00 – Constantijn – “I don’t think we’ve done a lot in the Netherlands to attract talent. In fact, Amsterdam – and the Netherlands in general – are ranked quite highly for livability, and people do want to come here, but we haven’t ever done wide skill acquisition.”
27:23 – Constantijn – “I think that this podcast should really contribute to sharing the insights of seasoned entrepreneurs. And if we can capture the insights of why some of those entrepreneurs have been successful, I think that’s something very valuable for the ecosystem.”
34:38 – Joe – “This podcast is about helping tech companies in the Netherlands, figuring out what it means to scale by showing them the people who have successfully done it.”
36:05 – Constantijn – “I hope to bring to the air some of our best and brightest entrepreneurs from the Netherlands, understand where they made a difference, what personal sacrifices they made, what choices they made, what came on their path, how they reacted.”